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Wednesday, October 04, 2006

99 Bottles of Beer on the Wall.

This was in today's inbox from "MF" (and you really do need to learn how to post comments):

Dear Mike,

Interesting blog . . . I would like to see Dolan promoted out of here. Would rather see him get Baltimore (less prestigious than New York or Chicago), besides I want BURKE in Chicago!

I hope and pray that if Dolan is leaving he doesn't saddle us with another bad auxiliary. Frederick would be a DISASTER. I cannot; however, share your enthusiasm for Hartmann. Are you related to him? We were parishioners at Christ King when he was first ordained. While he was reverent in his motions on the Altar, I am always suspicious of a priest who goes incognito to a bar.

with faith and prayers, MF

Plenty that could be said. I want to focus on the last part. No, not a relative. What kind of a bar have you seen him going into? Presuming it is your everyday, ordinary tavern, I really can't fault a priest for going into a bar. Incognito? Some would complain if priests went into bars in habit; some do complain if they go incognito. So long as it is a respectable establishment, and the priest doesn't go in nightly...why not? I'd prefer incognito in a bar to watch a game with friends compared to a whole lot of the other options.

So, today's topic: Priests going into bars? Pro or Con....discuss.

Mike

9 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

She's absolutely, completely right: Frederick would be a disaster.

Wednesday, October 04, 2006 6:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't know what the circumstances were with Fr. Hartmann, but I dont think unless it is a get together (party) for close freinds or family a priest belongs in a tavern.

KK

Thursday, October 05, 2006 5:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Do any of us belong in taverns?

TSL

Thursday, October 05, 2006 6:58:00 AM  
Blogger Dad29 said...

OFCOL!!! (Oh, For Cryin' Out Loud!!!)

Have a couple of beers in mufti and someone goes nuts.

To me, it's 51/49--I'd prefer, but only SLIGHTLY, that he wear the collar and suit. But maybe he went in civvies so he didn't have to drink all the freebies his parishioners would have bought for him.

Thursday, October 05, 2006 11:41:00 AM  
Blogger Mike, the Faithful Catholic said...

I generally agree with Dad29. I might even lean more toward, or beyond, 51/49 in favor of letting a priest go to a bar in civvies.

Here is the spectrum I see:

On one end (once all-to-popular here in Milwaukee) is going to gay bars wearing who knows what. (I guess those in drag might at least not be recognized.)

On the other end are too many priests whose theology I agree with, liturgy I like, and unity with Rome I encourage...but let's be honest, too many of them are way too prissy for me.

Somewhere in between is a man, let me say that again, a MAN, who can sit down, relax, and still show that he has dignity, faith, and sets a good example for kids.

So, MF, KK, and TSL...lighten up.

Mike

Thursday, October 05, 2006 3:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just wear your collar in the bar Father Hartman....we are not puritans.

Thursday, October 05, 2006 5:02:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The perfect is the enemy of the good. -Voltaire, circa 1772

Thursday, October 05, 2006 5:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What a waste of time this discussion is. Why can't a priest go to a bar? Look at our ethnic heritages - Irish, German, Italian - they all know how to have a good time in a tavern. That doesn't mean it's immoral or unethical. Why can't a priest just go to a bar wearing normal clothes, have a beer with friends and not have to be bombarded by criticism, people coming up to him, having to hear drunken confessions, etc. No wonder we have so few priests with so many people wanting to control their lives...let him have a beer at a respectable bar (of which we are blessed with many in Milwaukee) - we're not Methodists...

Saturday, October 07, 2006 5:06:00 AM  
Blogger Mike, the Faithful Catholic said...

That last pretty much sums it up. Amen!

Mike

Saturday, October 07, 2006 6:29:00 PM  

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